How low are the normal 5d's now?

i saw a couple today as low as $1000. They went quickly before i had a chance to even react.

yeah, $1500 seems like the high end for asking prices, those seem to drop to the range everyone is saying when they sell. ~$1k will go quick, some sellers know this and want to dump them so if you watch and wait you can get lucky.

no surprises there. I skipped to the comparisons and final thoughts, no mention of auto ISO sucking in his CNs? Damn, it's terrible, they MUST have mentioned that somewhere no?

Originally Posted by thechickencow

How low are the normal 5d's now?

BH and Adorama have Refurbs for $1300

Originally Posted by jacobsen1

no surprises there. I skipped to the comparisons and final thoughts, no mention of auto ISO sucking in his CNs? Damn, it's terrible, they MUST have mentioned that somewhere no?

i havent seen them say it sucks yet, but they do describe the 1/fl minimum shutter speed. i guess they figure you can tell that sucks on your own???

The more I read up on the sealing issues of the MKII the more put off I am of that camera.

I wouldn't be too put off by that. It's the same as any non 1 series canon, actually a bit more than the older x0Ds and old 5D. I've shot in light rain a ton with my old 5D w/o issues, plus snow. Downpours no, but rain/wet yep.

the Antarctica issue does bother me a bit though considering is was 6 bodies, but that'd probably an extreme? But still, LL made it sound like the 5Dii was the only body with real issues but also hinted that those bodies had grips (which is still an issue, but if shooting w/o solves it less so).

Originally Posted by jacobsen1

I wouldn't be too put off by that. It's the same as any non 1 series canon, actually a bit more than the older x0Ds and old 5D. I've shot in light rain a ton with my old 5D w/o issues, plus snow. Downpours no, but rain/wet yep.

the Antarctica issue does bother me a bit though considering is was 6 bodies, but that'd probably an extreme? But still, LL made it sound like the 5Dii was the only body with real issues but also hinted that those bodies had grips (which is still an issue, but if shooting w/o solves it less so).

After reading that, you have to admit being an outsider the D700 would seem like the better camera.

Originally Posted by thomps6s

After reading that, you have to admit being an outsider the D700 would seem like the better camera.

OK, and if the D700 is better then so is the 5D, 40D, 50D, and any other body that didn't fail on that trip..... the better camera will just come down to what you need/want out of a camera, but I can see why people WILL rule out the 5Dii now. Interesting though is the same trip in 2007 had issues with the 1Ds mark II... The very camera a lot of people considering 5Diis end up with. When people make that choice a lot of them cite the sealing as one of the reasons... Was that issue ever resolved? Was it a real issue or just something very odd with these Antarctica trips? And with only canons failing, what are sony and nikon doing differently where they don't have issues yet even canon's 1 series does?

Obviously there's an issue with the 5Dii's sealing. But my feeling is that something on this trip was different as I haven't heard about other issues. I'm pretty damn sure anyone with issues would be bringing them up on other forums if they were there no? I'm not saying there isn't an issue, it's obvious there is, but why so many from such a small sample when there haven't been any other publicized issues? The only other issues I've seen with 5Diis is cameras that were DOA, or dead immediately after the initial use (~20 frames then dead). Those were all chalked up to a bad apple in terms of manufacturing.

and the LL article is very vague. If you want some real info dig into the LL board where they're talking about it.

Also, the D700 is an interesting option for me. I have a few thoughts on it, some positive some negative. It's not a bad camera, it has some very good ideas/concepts on it, but in the end it's not for me. This weather sealing issue DID make me price out a switch again. Probably the third time I've had a cart on B&H loading with a D700 and lenses. But each time I think about it, and reread the reviews of the D700 it just doesn't do it for me for whatever reasons.

$.02
YMMV

Oh, and after reading more about the LL issue, IT'S NOT A GRIP ISSUE like I was previously wondering/hoping. NONE of the 3 posters had grips on, so that's ruled out. Rainbags are a commonality for 3 of the bodies though?

well my local best buy had 2 in stock so i'm now a new owner of a 5dmk2!

That screen if freakin ginormous coming from a 20D and 1Dmk2!

so does anywhere have the batteries in stock for this camera yet? i would love to have a "oh crap i forgot top charge the battery" back up

$2699 + tax for body only.

ive been sort-of actively looking for a mk1, but I cant seem to find anything decent in the 900$ range, I am thinking I will just wait, or go ahead and get a 1dmk2n

Originally Posted by purd002

$2699 + tax for kit.

Wow, they sell for $3500 everywhere else for a kit. BB must have mis-priced it?

Originally Posted by edgephoto

****.

anyone know how good the terms are on a best buy card?

maybe I can get someone to co-sign

I bought my laptop on a BB card 3 years ago. Something like 12 months interest free. I paid it off in time.
If you don't pay it off on time, the interest rates are around 20% so you will get raped.

Originally Posted by thomps6s

I bought my laptop on a BB card 3 years ago. Something like 12 months interest free. I paid it off in time.
If you don't pay it off on time, the interest rates are around 20% so you will get raped.

my gf just got a BB card to get her laptop, I offered to pay cash for her laptop so she wouldnt do it, but apparently she wanted the card.

MattMcDole, at one point in time, worked at BB, and he said the cards were nothing but a huge scam that robbed people blindly all the time.

Then again, CC's to tend to target people that are bad with finances..

i fixed my original post, apparently i had been drinking last night. They like almost everyplace else is still selling it for retail. I chose to eat it because i leave for vacation this week and wanted to shoot with it while i'm there!

MATT got one TOO?!?

well he's been saying he would since like 2 years ago?

Originally Posted by PhatheadWRX

MATT got one TOO?!?

What? It came with a free snuggie... how could I refuse?!

Just adding that Im loving this camera. Number of keepers has gone up and focus is much more accurate from what ive experienced so far. Ill put it through its paces this weekend but im so glad I waited.

check were your hands are. if you hit the preview DOF button near the lens release it will go back to blank screen. ask distorto about my hands hitting the preview ODF button.....

anyone played with the auto lighting optimizer setting? Ive been noticing my shots tend to be underexposed and having to shoot +.5 or +1 ev. Anyone having similar finds? Default for the auto is set to standard, however I thought it was supposed to OE if anything not under. Just curious, im going to try switching it off and see if it makes a difference.

what are you shooting that is needs +.5~+1? I'm ALWAYS there at my house, but I do have white walls... But since I shoot RAW I don't give a damn about ALO. It's only "on" if you use DPP or JPEGs so I can't imagine it'd mess with the exposure calcs.

for example the family fisheye shot, was +1 and looks perfect. A bunch of my shots from last weekends shoot needed a bump in LR as well. Just curious if its just me or maybe I need to get used to the way the camera is metering compared to the 40D.

your walls and carpet are both lighter than 18% gray though no?

and fisheyes ALWAYS meter weird FYI. but usually it's more that they're not tricked as much by the sun in a shot, but yeah, they see so much the meter's not used to it.

Went to a wedding this weekend. Hung out in the balcony to get some UWA shots of the ceremony. I also took my 28-75 and 50 1.4. It was too dark for my 70-300.

I was kinda suprised when the pro's second shooter came up there after the procession. He was shooting a 5D w/ 50 1.4 and 5Dii with 70-300. He also had a 17-40 on the 5Dii for the close ups of enterance/exit. Kinda cool that I owned 2 of his 3 lenses (17-40 is a waste on a crop anyway )

It really made me want a 5Dii. There was no way I could have thought about bringing my 70-300 on the XSi. I was shooting the UWA at 10mm, f/4, ISO 1600, 1/25". I would have been worthless at f/5.6 on the 70-300. Not to mention, I've realized that ISO 1600 on the XSi really needs a fair amount of NN. 800 isn't bad, but damn I'd love a usable ISO 3200.

Homeboy was blasting away great shots (I was chimping a bit over his shoulder, and actually suprised that he didn't use a histograhm) close to 300mm and at least at f/5.6. The IS on that lens can get you ~1/50" easy @ 300mm and with that compression and a dark altar area he was likely shooting at 6400.

I talked to him for a bit at the reception and he raved and raved about the 5Dii.
I really wish I could afford one. I could sell the Sigma and pick up a 17-40 and have a stellar kit.

I'm also thinking my Tamron may need to go in for some adjustments (especially after looking at Shawn's Mexican beer wranglers). But my 50 1.4 really kicked ass at the rehersal dinner where I was the primary shooter (one girl with a entry nikon with the 18-55 + popup flash ).

And of course I didn't shoot over the wedding pro's shoulder. He didn't come up there until after my UWAs, during the ceremony I mainly sat back and enjoyed. Took a handfull of shots with my 50 + 28-75 of the key moments, but they sucked. I didn't even take the camera into the reception.

Hopefully I can process most of the other shots tonight and get them up. I took about 1k this weekend.

Originally Posted by PhatheadWRX

Went to a wedding this weekend. Hung out in the balcony to get some UWA shots of the ceremony. I also took my 28-75 and 50 1.4. It was too dark for my 70-300.

I was kinda suprised when the pro's second shooter came up there after the procession. He was shooting a 5D w/ 50 1.4 and 5Dii with 70-300. He also had a 17-40 on the 5Dii for the close ups of enterance/exit. Kinda cool that I owned 2 of his 3 lenses (17-40 is a waste on a crop anyway )

It really made me want a 5Dii. There was no way I could have thought about bringing my 70-300 on the XSi. I was shooting the UWA at 10mm, f/4, ISO 1600, 1/25". I would have been worthless at f/5.6 on the 70-300. Not to mention, I've realized that ISO 1600 on the XSi really needs a fair amount of NN. 800 isn't bad, but damn I'd love a usable ISO 3200.

Homeboy was blasting away great shots (I was chimping a bit over his shoulder, and actually suprised that he didn't use a histograhm) close to 300mm and at least at f/5.6. The IS on that lens can get you ~1/50" easy @ 300mm and with that compression and a dark altar area he was likely shooting at 6400.

I talked to him for a bit at the reception and he raved and raved about the 5Dii.
I really wish I could afford one. I could sell the Sigma and pick up a 17-40 and have a stellar kit.

I'm also thinking my Tamron may need to go in for some adjustments (especially after looking at Shawn's Mexican beer wranglers). But my 50 1.4 really kicked ass at the rehersal dinner where I was the primary shooter (one girl with a entry nikon with the 18-55 + popup flash ).

And of course I didn't shoot over the wedding pro's shoulder. He didn't come up there until after my UWAs, during the ceremony I mainly sat back and enjoyed. Took a handfull of shots with my 50 + 28-75 of the key moments, but they sucked. I didn't even take the camera into the reception.

Hopefully I can process most of the other shots tonight and get them up. I took about 1k this weekend.

5DMKII - 6 months same as cash at BH

Has anyone here ever get ERR 70? it has happened to me when i am pressing the shutter button, its almost like the mirror cant decide whether to flip or not. it gives me the ERR 70, turn off then back on messaage.

am i hosed? is it more user error?

havnt gotten any error.

You gripped?

http://lightingmods.blogspot.com/200...ip-errors.html

*knocks wood*

no errors here and I've been shooting in some not so pleasant conditions.

*knocks wood again*

from what Ive seen, the error 70 appears after liveview/ video functions?

nope i'm not gripped. i read a person's issue that they got it (Err 70)when shooting slow shutter speeds. thinking back i realized this is the same situation for me, it was happening often on friday when i was at the aquarium. really annoying, camera basically has to reboot to shoot again.

Originally Posted by subimatt

from what Ive seen, the error 70 appears after liveview/ video functions?

i have read the same thing, but i have not had issue when using live view or video

putting 2 and 2 together, maybe that's an overheating warning (long shutters or video/live)?

Dan, had you shot any video that day?

what kind of CF card are you using? maybe a buffer issue?

Originally Posted by subimatt

what kind of CF card are you using? maybe a buffer issue?

i was shooting with an sandisk extreme III card.

Ben, no video that day just slow shutters.

Originally Posted by subimatt

what kind of CF card are you using? maybe a buffer issue?

still shouldn't throw an error or stop shooting completely IMHO.