I really want to try this, just need to find a cheap lens now.

http://www.creativepro.com/article/b...a-lens-peanuts

Cool. Lensbaby for cheap!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtreinik/518469262/

I tried this, but i was never able to source the rubber that would work. Looks like someone found something that will work

Those ebay ones are tempting! Is 8 degrees a significant tilt?

yeah.

Gosh - now it's really tempting.

I wonder how it would work with the Arsat 30mm f/3.5 fisheye. Interesting thought.

tilt fish?

I wanna see if you do go for it!

I'm noticing that they make pentacon six to M645 adapters so I'm trying to get the most bang for my buck. I just don't know how much use I'd actually get out of a fisheye for my mamiya.

I really just wish they made a M645 to nikon tilt adapter that wasn't prohibitively expensive for what would essentially be a toy. [Would be so fun with my 80/1.9]

before anyone goes out and spends time on this, do what i've done a few times myself...

just detatch the lens from the camera, tilt it by hand, and take a few shots.

as long as you don't have an assload of light pouring in the side, it works surprisingly well.

yeah, I went through all this myself when I sold my TS-Es... In the end, I audited my shooting and realized how little I used the TS-Es anyway so I haven't gotten anything to replace them yet. Ideally I'd love to be a landscape shooter who did nothing BUT very large stitched shots with TS-Es and printed them VERY LARGE, but that's not going to happen anytime soon. The 5Dii has been a reasonable compromise for me.

I've been thinking about tilt for a long time - this guy does awesome work:

http://flickr.com/photos/fodder/tags/85mmf28dpcmicro/

Cheapest option looks to be right about $200 with the P-Six tilt adapter and a used 80mm f/2.8 in that mount. Which isn't bad, but 80mm is pretty long on my D200.

I saw some pics a guy did with ken's suggestion and a cut up black sock.

Ok, so I'm on my way... I just picked up a manual Olympus 50mm f/1.8. It has a sticky aperture, so I only paid $5 for the lens, the glass looks perfect.

I also got another body cap for the 5D, so I can hack it up to make my mount.

It looks like I may be able to use a short piece of shop vac hose to connect the two. I'll document the process and post it up when I'm finished.

Ok, I finished my project. I'll post the photos of the process later, but I've run into an issue and I hope that someone here can help me.

The bellows on my lens basically acts like a macro extension tube, so the lens will focus from 1 inch to about 6 inches, but will not focus beyond this (even on the infinity setting). How can I get this thing to focus farther???

move it closer. longer extension tube = lower max focus

Originally Posted by PhatheadWRX

move it closer. longer extension tube = lower max focus

I tried that, and moved it to where the rear of the lens mount is touching the modified body cap. This restricts the amount of tilt I can get, and it still doesn't focus farther than a few inches. My bellows is only about an inch long, so the lens is mounted about an inch and a half from the camera.

use a longer FL Lens, or stop down.
Ultimately, this is why most TS lenses are SUPER expensive...

Originally Posted by JERM

I tried that, and moved it to where the rear of the lens mount is touching the modified body cap. This restricts the amount of tilt I can get, and it still doesn't focus farther than a few inches. My bellows is only about an inch long, so the lens is mounted about an inch and a half from the camera.

The lens you're using is designed to focus on infinity when it is mounted on the camera, since you're pulling it away from the lens mount you're taking away its ability to focus on infitity. Medium format lenses work well for this kind of thing since they're designed with a larger film to lens distance in mind. You might try taking the lens apart in order to make it shorter so that you can get it closer to it's designed range and still be able to tilt it.

I was messing around with a sock and a spare body cap today and ended up with a decent set up with my mamiya 80mm. I'm looking around for a cheeeeap medium format lens to make into a more permanent solution. Does anyone know any place that sells used/broken lenses in RI? Trying to avoid shipping anything.

Really fun to mess around with, though!

tiny woodpile:

cool dude

Ok, so even though mine turned out working as a macro instead of a TS, I thought some people might find my technique helpful. I'm still toying with the idea of disassembling the lens to see if I can increase the focal range.

Raw materials:

Olympus 50mm f/1.8 with DOF Preview button on the side
Rear lens cap
Body cap
Rubber lens hood that fits the body cap and rear cap
Total cost: ~$20

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I assembled these with my favorite adhesive of all time: Devcon Plastic Welder.

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come to think of it, a concave lens on the front element would counteract the macro effect of the greater distance between lens and film plane.

do they make anti-close up filters?

Originally Posted by ride5000

do they make anti-close up filters?

That would be cool. I really want this lens to work because of the DOF preview button on the side, it makes it really easy to control the aperture.

Wow... I seriously recommend that you never try to disassemble a lens. I got it back together, but what a PITA... and I didn't make any progress.

I'm pretty psyched, I bought a shift boot for a vw beetle on ebay for this. And it's perfect. I'll post up some photos of it when its done.

Here's how I did it. First my mamiya 80mm f/1.9 gave up the ghost and separated into two pieces:



The piece on the left contains all the optics for the lens and the piece on the right just moves that whole section back and forth to focus it. I used only the optics. I cut down the shift boot to the point that it would stretch over the bottom of the lens and then used a zip tie to hold it on there. Then I glued the cut out nikon body cap to the bottom of the shift boot and voila!



The only thing I wish I could have is control over the aperture, a constant 1.9 is a bit fast for this and the DOF is pretty small.

And an example:

jeff, that looks pretty cool.

too bad there's no way to close down the aperture?

I was thinking about it last night, and there's just no way to do it mechanically without the other half of the lens and there's no way they're going back together.

I'm going to try making one out of plastic to put in front of the lens.

did you at least preserve infinity focus? hopefully after the disassembly you were able to basically mount it closer to the body...

yeah, I made sure of that. It's a medium format lens so there was plenty of room for the bellows because of the longer lens to film plane distance of 645 cameras. It works just like a lens baby, you squeeze it down a bit for infinity focus.

nice work, I see you're really making progress on your thesis?

<-- I'm the same way procrastination wise........

Haha, yes and no. I finished the important revisions yesterday and sent them off to my adviser. So I was free to work on that. God knows I woulda shot someone if I had to format it all yesterday, too.

Originally Posted by MoLS

yeah, I made sure of that. It's a medium format lens so there was plenty of room for the bellows because of the longer lens to film plane distance of 645 cameras. It works just like a lens baby, you squeeze it down a bit for infinity focus.

cool! that's the big issue i see with using lenses designed for the body you're trying to T/S them on... without doing major surgery you can't really get the rear element in the same place as before.

I'm really glad to see that this is working for you! (I scrapped mine and bought a lensbaby, although the homemade lens works pretty well as a macro.)

I have two old FD 50mm 1.8s. I wonder if I can force the aperture ring to work without it being connected to the body.

Well I tried to make my FD have a smooth aperture adjustment like this: http://www.frozenphoenixproductions....d_aperture.mov

But I accidentally did something to the aperture. So then I went into the front to pull out the diaphragm and fix it: http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-161.html

However the last three screws I undid when I went in through the the bottom must have been the three screws holding together the diaphragm, so when I went to take it out it came in pieces

Oh well now I have 1 working FD 50mm 1.8 and one that is f/1.8 all the time (just removed all the guts (still moves in and out for focus). Looks like I'll be finding a "boot" to make myself a DIY TSE with the busted one.

haha, excellent. Just make sure your boot allows the lens to get close enough to the body to focus on infinity.

I just held it up to my lens body at infinity focus and still could not focus at infinity... time to start playing around

ok, I took everything off the back, so now I just have the elements and the front metal ring.

Jeff, how do you make sure that the rear element isn't going to hit your mirror? I can get focus, but the rear element is pretty far in there.

I don't have to worry since my lens is for a medium format camera and they have a longer lens to film plane distance. At infinity focus my rear element is still about 1/2 an inch away from the lens mount.

If you do the bellows carefully so that when they're compressed all the way you just get to inifinity focus you won't have to worry about the mirror clearance. Make sense?

yeah it makes sense, but I'm still a bit worried. What is the lens to film plane on FD mounts?

Originally Posted by wiki

The 42mm flange focal distance of the FD mount is shorter than that of most other lens mounts. This means that it is impossible to mount an FD lens on most other types of cameras using an adapter, unless the adapter contains corrective optics or the ability to focus at infinity is sacrificed. (A notable exception is that Canon FD lenses can be mounted on Canon rangefinder cameras or other Leica screw mount cameras using the Canon lens mount adapter 'B', but rangefinder-coupled focusing is lost.)

I assume its shorter than modern ef mount lenses since you lose infinity focus when you mount them - essentially adding distance that works like an extension tube. Which would be why you're having issues with clearance @ infinity.

There's a ton of "as-is" medium format lenses on keh for ~$30 if you're serious about this and your FD doesn't work out.

EF is 44mm

Yeah, I just found a table. FD is 42mm.

http://www.bobatkins.com/photography...focus_EOS.html

Originally Posted by MoLS

Yeah, I just found a table. FD is 42mm.

http://www.bobatkins.com/photography...focus_EOS.html

nice article!

The wiki article on lens mounts has a large table of specifications including medium format mounts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_mount