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    jjswee... feel free to use this thread for your build stuff too.

    My basic plan was to build a DIY intervalometer controller for my camera so I can do time lapse shots. The G3 will do it, but is very limited (max of 100 shots, min delay of 1 min). So after looking at arduino boards for a while and wondering what possible reason I could figure out to buy one... I FOUND MY REASON!!!!!!!

    I'm basing the design on the intervaluino I found on sporez.com: Intervaluino: A DIY Intervalometer for your Canon SLR | The Honey Jar I'm using reed relays as opposed to an optocoupler because... oh yeah... Radio Shack doesn't sell optocouplers

    Right now I've taken the stuff out of the box, built the first few tutorials from ladyada.net... and have built a basic prototype to figure out how reed relays work. Unfortunately I've hit a snag in that I can't find a cable to hook it up to my camera... and even if I could I'm going to have to find a way to wire this stupid headphone jack since it won't fit on my breadboard.

    So tomorrow I'm going to head back to Radio Shack to buy a project box and see if I can't get some things hooked up and soldered in place for real. I'll try to get some photos up this weekend and see if I can't shoot a time lapse before the rain moves in Sunday. Mostly I wanted to just make this thread to get jjswee into gear and ready to build something too!


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    Bravo sir!

    I do need to get in gear. I was just going to get the standard arduino duemilanove through the sparkfun free day, but I couldnt get in. All it did was slow me down. Now I am looking at alternatives to the arduino, such as the freeduino and the seeeduino. The two guys who I would normally discuss this with are too busy to be online.

    I am pointing towards the Seeeduino because it has some upgrades over the Arduino that I don't really understand yet.

    As for getting the cable to hook to your camera, why not get a cheapo wired cable from ebay/amazon and cut it up?
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    FOUND IT!!!! I had a 3.5mm to 2.5mm cable that came with my wife's Creative Zen MP3 player. The mini end that hooks into the recording port is exactly the same as the control pin on the Canon 300D. w00t!

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    Ooohhh.... I've heard of the Arduino before, but I didn't realize it was that easy to program. I might have to pick one up and start dicking around with it at some point. I wonder how much power it can handle. Could I run a huge chain of LEDs off of one?

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    Kilonad - matters on the number, but yes. They have a specific number of outputs (some have like 30, some 70).

    I just did a bunch of research into my wireless connection to an iphone to control the camera, and I found that it WILL work. I just need to figure out how much memory the WiShield takes up then all things are go. This should get interesting.
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    Would I be able to use this to build and control something like a sunlight alarm clock? I obviously wouldn't want to run 100W through the board, but I'm not quite sure how I'd slowly turn a light bulb on otherwise.

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    Sunlight alarm clock?

    You can make it control a relay to direct the huge power.
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    Yeah, I want an alarm clock that slowly turns on a bright light bulb in the morning. I only have a smallish window in my basement bedroom, and it's impossible for me to wake up some days...

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    ^ get what I call a "ringer dinger" alarm clock ( the 2 bells with a hammer between them, oldschool style). Now put it IN THE BATHROOM. By the time you get to it you're somewhat awake, and then you're in the bathroom so you piss... But the time you're done you're up.
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    Yeah, I'd rather not be jolted awake like that.

    I'm also usually still very much not awake after my morning piss.

    Sunlight solves everything.

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    getting jolted -vs- sleeping through important things...

    take your pick. And yeah, I can go back to sleep at that point if I want, but basically it's eliminated snoozing for me now as I sleep until the last minute when it goes off and I'm up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chkltcow View Post
    I'm using reed relays as opposed to an optocoupler because... oh yeah... Radio Shack doesn't sell optocouplers
    You can always get some free samples of optocouplers from Fairchild.

    Also, for others who want to start a project like this, the RBBB Arduino clone is smaller and cheaper than the duemilanove.

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    IIRC the Arduino is basically an Atmel microcontroller with built-in I/O on a PCB, no?

    If you want to seriously DIY it, just pick up an Atmega 8. They're stupid easy to program in C. We built a maze-solving robot for one of my engineering courses based on one:

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    (No, that's not an antenna, it's a stir-stick attached to a switch that turns cuts the power when the robot passes under exit gate)


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    A sunlight alarm clock?

    The sensing portion is pretty straight forward..

    Photodiode -> Amp -> ADC -> uController

    The dimming isn't as easy when you are talking AC..

    Modern dimmers "truncate" the sine wave to dim the light, you'd need to build this circuit, not too difficult, but you'd need a DAC to vary the output to the circuit to dim the light.

    Definitely do-able.. but you'd need to do some research

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazin View Post
    A sunlight alarm clock?

    The sensing portion is pretty straight forward..

    Photodiode -> Amp -> ADC -> uController

    The dimming isn't as easy when you are talking AC..

    Modern dimmers "truncate" the sine wave to dim the light, you'd need to build this circuit, not too difficult, but you'd need a DAC to vary the output to the circuit to dim the light.

    Definitely do-able.. but you'd need to do some research
    I wouldn't need to sense anything... I'd just need to tell it to start turning on a lightbulb at, say, 6AM, and go from fully off to fully on over the course of 30 minutes. I'd use an incandescent bulb, so I could probably get away with using a thyristor-based dimmer, or I could go all digital and make a PWM system.

    Yeah, I need to do a lot more research... haha.

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    You don't need an arduino setup.. you just need one of these: X10 Lamp Module LM465 PLM03 - Smarthome

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    Quote Originally Posted by chkltcow View Post
    You don't need an arduino setup.. you just need one of these: X10 Lamp Module LM465 PLM03 - Smarthome
    Ooh, neat. What would I need to get in order to control that?

    Hopefully not the $160 software package and the $70 USB controller.

    Edit: this might work... 8 brightness levels would be enough, if I had to set each event to be a different brightness level on the same lamp... http://www.smarthome.com/1091/X10-LC...r-XPMT4/p.aspx
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    Arduino's have PWM outputs. Set that to control voltage via a relay? Variable transformer? do they make them? Haha.

    SCR Power Controls -- Zero fired & Phase Angle Fired

    The first one is what you need, but I have no idea how much it is and where to buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjswee View Post
    Arduino's have PWM outputs. Set that to control voltage via a relay? Variable transformer? do they make them? Haha.

    SCR Power Controls -- Zero fired & Phase Angle Fired

    The first one is what you need, but I have no idea how much it is and where to buy it.
    Oooh... okay, so life just got a little easier, since now I won't have to figure out how to wire up a PWM circuit... haha. PWM is great because it's basically digital control over the output waveform. To ramp up the voltage, you set it to turn it on for 1ms, then off for 9ms, then on for 2, then off for 8, 3 on, 7 off, etc., until you hit solid on (only you generally do it much faster than every millisecond).

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    I just ordered a Duemilanove: Arduino - ArduinoBoardDuemilanove

    What the heck, it'll be fun to play with.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelo View Post
    I just ordered a Duemilanove: Arduino - ArduinoBoardDuemilanove

    What the heck, it'll be fun to play with.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelo View Post
    I just ordered a Duemilanove: Arduino - ArduinoBoardDuemilanove

    What the heck, it'll be fun to play with.

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    SWEET! We shall have a cult of Arduino on here!

    Kilonad: As best I remember, there was a little serial port thing needed to control those from a computer. I can't find it on the smarthome website, but if you're brave... you can try x10.com. Their site was and probably will always be a total mess. They were one of those horrible advertisers a few years back where everything blinked, and they always used scantily clad girls in bikinis to try to sell their security cameras. Regardless, they make what you're looking for I think when I bought mine, it was a starter kit with the controller and 2 receivers for $25.

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    Arduino Dual man love?
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    chkltcow - think you can help me find information on how much memory the code of the wishield takes up? I dunno if i can get away with the duemilanove atmega328, or do I need an Arduino Mega with the ATmega1280?

    Edit - just found it: So the one thing you'll definitely need to take into consideration is flash program space. The WiShield driver takes about 9-10k. It looks like the GPS library is about 12k. So you definitely need at least an ATMEGA328 with 32k flash (that'll leave about 8k of application space after the bootloader).
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    Per their webpage, it looks like WiShield is pretty much built to drop into the Duemilanove:

    WiShield 1.0


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    SWEET! We shall have a cult of Arduino on here!

    Kilonad: As best I remember, there was a little serial port thing needed to control those from a computer. I can't find it on the smarthome website, but if you're brave... you can try x10.com. Their site was and probably will always be a total mess. They were one of those horrible advertisers a few years back where everything blinked, and they always used scantily clad girls in bikinis to try to sell their security cameras. Regardless, they make what you're looking for I think when I bought mine, it was a starter kit with the controller and 2 receivers for $25.
    Aha, they have some sort of starter kit for $50 now. I might have to look into that, since you can easily program macros and set timers.

    Their website is still stuck in 2002 though.

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    You're going FAR more complicated than I am with mine. I want to be able to program it so that when I press a button, it starts taking pictures on some delay... maybe 30 seconds... for 10 hours.

    Code:
    if(pressed=1) {
      for(i=0;i<1200;i++) {
        focus(); // to wake
        delay(100);
        shoot();
        delay(3000);
     }
    }
    That's pretty much all mine is going to do, at first. Later on I want to work on some triggers, like a light trigger for shooting lightning.

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    Yeah I usually want to go crazy far with stuff. I would like to eventually make an iphone app and sell it along with a hardware kit to replicate my thing without the arduino development board stuff. Just a few chips.
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    Another plan I have is to set up a box with some type of external connector, probably RJ-45, for sensors... and another external connector that's just a relay to close a circuit to either fire a flash or trigger the shutter on a camera. It would be nice to be able to swap out the various triggers for whatever you need at the time... laser trip, audio trip, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilonad View Post
    Aha, they have some sort of starter kit for $50 now. I might have to look into that, since you can easily program macros and set timers.

    Their website is still stuck in 2002 though.
    The issue I have with DIY that is way more than you need, is that you start getting into the realm where you can pick up COTS equipment that does your function for $10 more..

    The Peaceful Progression Wake Up Clock - Hammacher Schlemmer

    Bam, fingers in the *****.

    However, if you want to be real bad ass, you'll set up all the aforementioned hardware with an 8051 and some Assembly language for wayyyy less..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazin View Post
    The issue I have with DIY that is way more than you need, is that you start getting into the realm where you can pick up COTS equipment that does your function for $10 more..
    Thats not the point for me. I am gonna put a decent amount of money into my kit, but its the tinkering, programming, and building that I am interested in.
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    Totally agree I meant more towards the guy looing to buy the kit as a one use only setup not the collection of components you use to fab up some ideas. After all once you get this stuff working in c you can port it to lower level code with n o issue

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    Alright boys and... well... let's be honest, it's mostly just guys in here Version 1 is done on my breadboard, and about as simple as it gets. There are two reed relays... one for the focus and one for the shutter. Pin 8 is hooked to the relay coil for focus, and pin 9 for fire. Both relays are connected on one end to the camera ground and on the other end to the focus ring and shoot ring respectively.

    Since I eventually want to put the breadboard in a project box that I don't currently have, I needed SOMETHING to attach the headphone jack to... so I put it in a film canister. Hey.. what's more appropriate for a camera controller than being in a film canister? It's hooked up to the breadboard with some old Cat3 I had lying around (none of that fancy Cat5 stuff here!)



    And the code is braindead too.

    Code:
    int focusPin = 8;
    int firePin = 9;
    int led = 13;
    
    void setup() {
      pinMode(focusPin, OUTPUT);
      pinMode(firePin, OUTPUT);
      pinMode(led, OUTPUT);
    }
    
    void loop() {
      digitalWrite(led,HIGH);
      digitalWrite(focusPin,HIGH);
      delay(500);  // focus for half second to wake up camera if asleep
      digitalWrite(firePin,HIGH);
      delay(500);  // hold the shutter button for half a second
      digitalWrite(led,LOW);
      digitalWrite(focusPin,LOW);
      digitalWrite(firePin,LOW);
      delay(119000);  // wait 119 more seconds
    }
    It's astonishing how easy it is to make stuff with this thing. Last week, I didn't know crap about working with bare electronics... and today I've built an intervalometer. WOW!

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    That's wicked, man!

    Did you try it out? Is it working as expected?


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    No, I haven't actually tried it out by taking pictures yet. I had to build the 9v battery holder so I can get it away from my PC and USB cable to find something to take pictures of (believe me, you don't want a time lapse of me sitting here in my boxers playing Forza 3). I did check everything out with a multimeter last night to make sure the relays were clicking on correctly and were actually isolated so no errant voltage is leaking over to the camera side. Everything is working fine with that, at least.

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    I got bored a little bit ago and decided to see what else I could make with the arduino... play around a bit more with programming. I hooked up 8 LEDs to pins 2-9 and made a binary counter. It counts from 0-255, then starts over again

    Code:
    int leds[] = { 
      2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 };
    int bytes[] = { 
      1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256 };
    int pinCount = 8;
    int inByte = 0;
    int i;
    int j;
    
    void setup() {
      for(i=0;i<pinCount;i++) {
        pinMode(leds[i], OUTPUT);
        digitalWrite(leds[i],LOW);
      }
    }
    
    void loop() {
      for(j=0;j<255;j++) {
        for(i=0;i<8;i++) {
          if(j & bytes[i]) {
            digitalWrite(leds[i], HIGH);
          }
          else {
            digitalWrite(leds[i], LOW);
          }
        }
        delay(50);
      }
    }
    I LOVE this thing!

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    Dude! congrats! I can't wait to get mine!
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    If the track info is not available, please wait 1-3 days since the tracking system does not synchronize info instantly.
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    HONG KONG!? Dude, I had it in 2 days from adafruit You'd probably get it overnight since they're in NYC.

    Of course, the last thing I ordered from Hong Kong made it from HK to LA in negative time, then LA to NYC in a few hours, then NYC to Charlotte in a few more hours. Basically, Hong Kong to Charlotte overnight. Then it sat on the dock in Charlotte for a week and a half because Airborne Express claimed they couldn't find my address.

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    I ordered from here: Seeed Studio Depot, Arsenal for interaction engineering Got a few other things. Still need to get the wishield.
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    Okay, it's now taking pictures I finally got the 9v adapter soldered together, put everything on the board and sort of taped it in place, and threw it in my backpack to take to work tomorrow. The code above is wrong... it takes close to 3 seconds just to wake that damn 300D... so here's the new code (in case I need to adjust it once I get to work tomorrow )

    Code:
    int focusPin = 8;
    int firePin = 9;
    int led = 13;
    int shots = 300;
    
    void setup() {
      pinMode(focusPin, OUTPUT);
      pinMode(firePin, OUTPUT);
      pinMode(led, OUTPUT);
    }
    
    void loop() {
      while(shots > 0) {
        digitalWrite(led,HIGH);
        digitalWrite(focusPin,HIGH);
        delay(3000);  // focus for three seconds to wake up camera if asleep
        digitalWrite(firePin,HIGH);
        delay(500);  // hold the shutter button for half a second
        digitalWrite(led,LOW);
        digitalWrite(focusPin,LOW);
        digitalWrite(firePin,LOW);
        delay(116500);  // wait 118 more seconds
        shots--;
      }
    }

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    Why shutter for 500ms and why focus high when taking the shot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjswee View Post
    Why shutter for 500ms and why focus high when taking the shot?
    I could probably turn the shutter time down, but really it doesn't matter. The focus time has to be so long because the camera goes to sleep after 1 minute, so it has to wake it up by pressing a button before it can actually take the shot. The camera wakes up so slow that I had to keep upping that number more and more to get it to a point that it WOULD wake up.

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    Wow, really?

    IIRC, as soon as I half-press the shutter button my 20D wakes up -- no idea how that works for a remote. I'll have to test that.

    I also need to find a super cheap source of N3 connectors... or develop via Canon's EDSDK a way for this thing to communicate with the camera via USB.


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    My 40D wakes up rather instantly. The old 300D Digital Rebel.... not so much.

    You can use something like this: Amazon.com: AC-1 Canon E3 to Canon N3 adapter: Camera & Photo
    That will let you plug your mini headphone connector into an N3 like the higher end cameras use. That's exactly what I'd use to make this thing work with my 40D. I just don't feel like leaving my 40D sitting in an attic overnight

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    Nice find! I was actually thinking of making that from scratch. I wonder if the 7D is the same type. Edit: Yes! Edit2: 17 bucks plus shipping? I can get a remote for under 8...
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    Batteries HATE cold! The typically magical Canon batteries that seem to last forever are failing me in this situation, probably because it's like 35F up in that attic. I charged a BP-511 overnight... just took it off the charger before coming to work this morning. The camera is set to go to sleep after 1 minute, then the arduino wakes it up with the focus button to take the shot. Still, somehow, the battery was completely dead in less than 2 hours. I got 53 shots taken... 30 shots per hour... 2 minute delays... so it only lasted 1 hour, 46 minutes. DAMN!

    Edit: or it could be that damnable 300D. I popped that same battery into my G3 and it shows it as a full charge, as does my 40D. The 300D just flashed a low battery warning and cut off though.

    Multimeter shows it putting out 7.8 volts still
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    Keep the camera warm with an electric blanket, maybe?


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