The combination are perfectly capable of taking fantastic images.

I decided to do all my PADs for the next week with the XTi and kit lens.

It's a terrible forum (Photography-on-the-net) but one thing that it is good for is lens sample shots...

Here's a whole thread dedicated to shots taken with that lens:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=185522

As for the lens, it's an absolutely capable lens. It can do some great stuff if you use it right. Also, it's a range I'm really fond of on the crop cameras (your XTi is one of them).

I am by no means claimging that these are great pic but all taken with the kit lens and some with PP

N.T.G- I'll be looking for that SWEET SPOT! Thanks for the photos & comments...

subimatt- Thanks, I'll be looking forward to this week's PAD's from you on the forum I'm sure it'll be interesting!

Scott- I'll be checking that link!!!

beezwax- I appreciate you sharing ALL those photos and it looks pretty good to me! Keep on shootin'...I like the photo #1...Great scene!

_L_U_C_A_- That's a SWEET SPOT in my beginner's BRAIN...Thanks for the examples!



I'm wondering if I had captured a beautiful image like beezwax's photo#1 pictured below how much would my "PS Elements" be able to do in terms of sharpness, color, and contrast?

Just looking to see how far I can go with my equipment in PP also?

Or, should I ask beezwax's permission to post this in the PP Forum?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by booju

beezwax- I appreciate you sharing ALL those photos and it looks pretty good to me! Keep on shootin'...I like the photo #1...Great scene!

I'm wondering if I had captured a beautiful image like beezwax's photo#1 pictured below how much would my "PS Elements" be able to do in terms of sharpness, color, and contrast?

Just looking to see how far I can go with my equipment in PP also?

Or, should I ask beezwax's permission to post this in the PP Forum?

Thanks!

I'm not to familiar with PS Elements to be honest... the PP in this pic was done with PS6... old skool on my wifes computer.

IIRC, PS Elements have all the basic PP tools that you'll need to adjust color, sat, hue, sharpness and maybe some more.

oh.. and if you want to use my image for a same please feel free too...HOWEVER, I may suggest finding other examples before you use mine.. reason being is that I've only been shooting for about 3 months now... not so much lately and I have a lot of learning and improving to do for someone to use my work as a baseline to where they want to be.

I strongly recomend, looking at:

Stime187
Subimatt
jacobson1
Markitos
tardypizza's

I personally consider them the best on here.

now I will say this. Learn the kit lens, it really isn't that bad. I went through a huge learning lesson on here about 4 days ago and all of a sudden I really began to understand how/when to "bump up a stop" and "turn down a stop"

As far as lens go, I've got the Canon EF 100-300 on loan from my wifes sister in law and an old school 35mm EF Canon 75-300mm Macro... I RARELY ever use them and I certainly don't post pics on here of them.

Also... compare your shots by shots taken with the same camera and lens... then you'll know the potential of what you have.. it's kinda like comparing car Dyno's... you just can't do it.. they all provide different results and the operator may have a different configuration.

just my .02

btw... one more thing... my first purchace on a lens will be the nifty fifty AKA 50mm 1.8.. for only about $70, you just can't go wrong.

Here is the link that schooled me... you may find it usefull.
http://newschoolofphotography.com/fo...ead.php?t=2945

the kit lens is very capable. There are some other fantastic alternatives, but they all cost a bit more. I would suggest you get the newer IS version they recently released. It's better optically and they added IS so it's a win win. It's also highly recommend you pick up the 50mm f/1.8 if you can too. It's a prime which will force you to learn how to compose with your feet, but with f/1.8 available you'll be able to implement a lot more water getting in that bucket via a fire house. And it's ~$75.

Originally Posted by jacobsen1

the kit lens is very capable. There are some other fantastic alternatives, but they all cost a bit more. I would suggest you get the newer IS version they recently released. It's better optically and they added IS so it's a win win. It's also highly recommend you pick up the 50mm f/1.8 if you can too. It's a prime which will force you to learn how to compose with your feet, but with f/1.8 available you'll be able to implement a lot more water getting in that bucket via a fire house. And it's ~$75.

Not to mention the 50 f/1.8 is a FANTASTIC tool for learning depth of field and how to use it effectively.

Originally Posted by Stime187

Not to mention the 50 f/1.8 is a FANTASTIC tool for learning depth of field and how to use it effectively.

Originally Posted by jacobsen1

I also highly recommend you pick up the 50mm f/1.8 if you can too. With f/1.8 available you'll be able to implement a lot more water getting in that bucket via a fire house. And it's ~$75.

Ben, we've both been drinking...

Aren't you just saying you can let more light in with the 50 f/1.8? I'm saying you can play with DOF.

yes we have and I'm referring to an analogy I used in the aperture tutorial.

Originally Posted by booju

Thanks guys for that price it sounds like a no brainer and a great learning tool...

At f/1.8 I'll be able to let a whole lotta water in that bucket and provide me alot of CREATIVITY on both ends of the spectrum...

How sharp is this glass compared to the Kit Lens...Noticeably better or slightly?

The 50 f/1.8 is VERY sharp. It will definitely be sharper than the kit lens, but that's not to say the kit lens is necessarily not sharp, it's just the 50 f/1.8 is THAT good.

yeah, as scott said it's sharp... It's a good intro to primes and zooms with a perfect intro to both realms. There are sharper primes than the 50 and sharper zooms than the kit, but both are excellent starter lenses and almost impossible to beat for the money.

yea, both are capable of taking sharp photos. Dont get all caught up in the whole which lens is sharper bit yet, you wont be able to appreciate/ notice the minute differences until you have fully learned your camera and the basics. Go one step at a time.

Originally Posted by booju

_L_U_C_A_- That's a SWEET SPOT in my beginner's BRAIN...Thanks for the examples!

No problem. The only thing limiting the kit lens is artistic creativity and finding work arounds to get the shots you want.