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    I can't find it anywhere, I don't know what it is but, I'd love to read up on it since were getting 18 inchs and I think i'm being paid to go snowboarding Saturday.
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    Have you tried firing off a complimentary, polite email to whoever filmed it? That can go a long way.

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    Kinda looks like a 39" Rotalux Deep Octabox to me: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...p_OctaBox.html


    And I bet it's probably hooked up to an Elinchrom Ranger or Ranger Quadra.

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    $2,500 for the light he used ****!

    http://www.vimeo.com/8904005
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stime187 View Post
    Have you tried firing off a complimentary, polite email to whoever filmed it? That can go a long way.
    Yes I did, The person who filmed it had nothing to do with who took pictures.
    and Kilonad already answered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylersladen View Post
    $2,500 for the light he used ****!

    http://www.vimeo.com/8904005
    $2500? Sounds about right for a Ranger RX Speed AS kit with the 39" Rotalux. You need gobs of power when you're shooting in mid-day sun with a crapload of snow around you. Speedlights simply won't cut it there, neither will an AlienBee (maybe a bare B1600).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilonad View Post
    $2500? Sounds about right for a Ranger RX Speed AS kit with the 39" Rotalux. You need gobs of power when you're shooting in mid-day sun with a crapload of snow around out.
    thats so much, argh.
    You get so much though its worth it if I had the $$$$$.
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    2 x RQ A Speed Flashheads
    2 x RQ Flashhead Cables
    2 x RQ Reflectors 13.5 cm
    EL-Skyport Transmitter
    Ranger Quadra Case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylersladen View Post
    thats so much, argh
    If you have a B800 and a Vagabond, and a willingness to subject both of those to the elements, you could consider picking up the smallest silver PLM that AlienBees offers (if they have any in stock) in order to maximize your power (or the silver beauty dish). I'm not so sure I'd use either one in those conditions though. If it falls over, it's getting snow inside of the bee, and if the Vagabond gets wet, it's going to short out. The Ranger series is a bit more weather resistant.

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    what other advantages do the rangers have over the ab's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylersladen View Post
    what other advantages do the rangers have over the ab's?
    the rangers are designed to be used on location (battery), whereas the alienbees are designed to be used in a studio (AC power, but the vagabond is an option)
    the rangers are more powerful, more durable when used as a location light, more portable, it's a bit more sealed against the elements, and it has interchangeable batteries.

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    but power and recycle time none really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylersladen View Post
    but power and recycle time none really?
    If you do a lot of location shooting, and you can justify the expense of a battery-only system, the Ranger and Ranger Quadra are great. By battery-only, I mean exactly that - you can't run them plugged into the wall. In exchange for that limitation, you can have a two head Quadra setup and you'd only be carrying 13lbs of gear with you. The Vagabond weighs about 18.6lbs all by itself. Sure, the Vagabond will give you a lot more shots, but you can always buy more batteries for the Ranger or the Quadra.

    The Ranger is 1100W/s. The Quadra is 400W/s. A B800 is 320W/s, and a B1600 is 640W/s, but the numbers aren't necessarily directly comparable.

    You have to realize that photography is not always a numbers game, and sometimes it's hard to explain why something kicks so much ass.

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    I just want something I can get the same power as my sb's but with more speed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylersladen View Post
    I just want something I can get the same power as my sb's but with more speed
    Wait for the Einsteins to come out then. They use IGBT tech, and they're supposedly capable of ~5fps at low power. You'd need to set them around 1/6 power to match the max output of your speedlights, and you could probably run that at 2-3fps pretty easily (I hope). They're also much more affordable at $440 each. The problem is that they aren't shipping yet, and the waiting list is getting kinda long.

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    who makes them, Souns like something to save for next winter..
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    who makes them, Souns like something to save for next winter..
    Paul C. Buff - same company as Alien Bees. http://www.paulcbuff.com/pcb2009/einstein.html

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    1.7 seconds to full thats sick I wish I could afford 4.
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    1.7 seconds to full thats sick I wish I could afford 4.
    Why would you need four of them?

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    rim, two and two fills I'd only need 3 now that i think about it
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    also consider paul c buff's white lightnings. it's at a price point in between the rangers and the alien bees.


    i think an AB1600 would work. i got one for xmas but have yet to play with it.
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