So, I don't think I changed anything, but suddenly when I go to "Save for Web" in CS2, the original and saved versions are vastly different. The saved/optimized version looks right and the "original" (left side) looks terrible (over saturated and odd). Then, when I actually get it uploaded, the finished one looks like the "original" (way over saturated/done) than the one I see in Adobe Bridge and in Photoshop.

Any ideas? I'm in sRGB and tried converting back and forth with no effect.

I hate computers.

Are you actually editing in sRGB?

I am assuming you are editing in AdobeRGB and then converting to sRGB for web display?

Originally Posted by ride5000

i assume you're saving to jpg?

if so, what are the jpg options?

Saving in jpg and the settings are whatever they've always been as far as I know. Probably setting 80 or so to reduce the file size.

Originally Posted by thomps6s

Are you actually editing in sRGB?

I am assuming you are editing in AdobeRGB and then converting to sRGB for web display?

No, I'm in sRGB the whole way through.

Okay, what the ****. I still can't figure this out...

• I'm working in sRGB the whole way through (please don't talk about RGB vs. sRGB in here, not the point of this thread).
• I reset the Photoshop Defaults (CS2)

The image on the left is in "Windows Viewer" and looks fine. The image on the right is the EXACT same one opened in Photoshop. The image itself is in sRGB.



My issue is with the colors being different when opened in Photoshop. Things are fine before and after, but I can't touch anything in Photoshop because the output isn't predictable (changes). Now, I realize there should be some slight differences in Windows viewer versus PS, but this is DRASTIC stuff.

Maybe Uninstall and re-install PS.
Save all of your plugin and action folders first.

I found this on photo.net - Since you don't calibrate, maybe that has become an issue with your monitor profile (this refers to srgb, rgb, etc.. Sorry)


strange?! if you save your image in sRGB they should look good in any

software specialy in PowerPoint...it must be something else rong in your computer...on mune everything look fine from explorer to powerpoint and even in photoshop.
The difference that you see between color managed and non-color managed programs, even with sRGB images, depends on how radical the modification to your video driver LUT that your monitor profile makes. If the native response of your monitor is already close, then you won't see much difference. My own monitor is enough different that I see a small difference between images that are displayed in PhotoShop and images that are displayed in non-color managed programs. And again, you should be able to compensate for this by soft proofing using "Monitor RGB". Or "Windows RGB". Which basically lets you soft proof to your native monitor. All this assumes that you have a valid monitor profile. That was preferably made with a hardware calibrator. If you need a refresher on how color management affects monitor displays, look through the tutorials on the Dry Creek Photo site.

I'm just posting to acknowledge your thread Scott.
But I have zero clue what's wrong.

Originally Posted by thomps6s

I found this on photo.net - Since you don't calibrate, maybe that has become an issue with your monitor profile (this refers to srgb, rgb, etc.. Sorry)

I do calibrate, every 6 months or so in fact. But anyways, that shouldn't matter as this literally just started happening suddenly. It wasn't a gradual thing at all.

strange?! if you save your image in sRGB they should look good in any

software specialy in PowerPoint...it must be something else rong in your computer...on mune everything look fine from explorer to powerpoint and even in photoshop.
The difference that you see between color managed and non-color managed programs, even with sRGB images, depends on how radical the modification to your video driver LUT that your monitor profile makes. If the native response of your monitor is already close, then you won't see much difference. My own monitor is enough different that I see a small difference between images that are displayed in PhotoShop and images that are displayed in non-color managed programs. And again, you should be able to compensate for this by soft proofing using "Monitor RGB". Or "Windows RGB". Which basically lets you soft proof to your native monitor. All this assumes that you have a valid monitor profile. That was preferably made with a hardware calibrator. If you need a refresher on how color management affects monitor displays, look through the tutorials on the Dry Creek Photo site.

Thansk for that, Shawn. I'll read through it and see if I can find anything else and look on Photo.net a bit too.

Originally Posted by jacobsen1

I'm just posting to acknowledge your thread Scott.
But I have zero clue what's wrong.

Thanks, Ben.

Proof colors isn't/wasn't selected, but if I select it and pick "Monitor RGB" the colors match the windows viewer, but there are still issues when I save for web.

Jesus, **** computers.

Wow Scott, that's really strange. I have no clue how to help there. I've never had anything like that that I've noticed. Hope you get it figured out.
Reed

soo, your proof colors are setup for custom, for your calibrated monitor profile?

I am sure you have done this already, but if not - why not re-calibrate for ****s and Giggles. maybe your monitor's profile is out of whack for some reason.

This is really bugging the piss out of me.

The funny thing is that if this happened to me I might not ever notice



Photoshop takes the monitor profile in account for display, whereas the windows picture viewer doesn't really (in the same way). I'd agree with recalibrating the display and double checking all those settings in Photoshop.

Status?

Originally Posted by thomps6s

Status?

Worse, if anything.

I mean, this is the SAME file in Adobe Bridge versus my website gallery. What the **** is going on here? I mean, neither of them look exactly right but the one in Adobe Bridge looks like a cartoon (at least on my monitor).

I hate to beat a dead horse, but have you tried re-calibrating your monitor?

Originally Posted by thomps6s

I hate to beat a dead horse, but have you tried re-calibrating your monitor?

Sorry, I didn't cross-post that info. It was re-calibrated today. But it was almost dead on before. This is a settings issue, I have no doubt. But yeah, good call either way.

I wish I lived closer. I am certain I could be more help to you. I work on computers for a living. It is sooo hard to troubleshoot remotely.
Do you have a tech department at your college that might be willing to take a peek or possibly a graphics art department?

Potentially. I might just keep up with googling. I just wish the **** was less complicated. I mean, why does it have to be so difficult to deal with color space?

I might be inheriting a Macbook Pro soon too. So, I might just not care til I get that thing.

Here are my settings when going to Edit-ColorSettings

Thanks, Shawn. Mine are exactly the same. So at least we can rule that out.

****!

What would cause a dramatic disparity from the web to Bridge/Photoshop? The shots in B/P are over-saturated and just generally over cooked whereas online they look a bit drab/flat/differently hued. I mean, I don't know how this all got screwed up so quickly, I don't remember changing anything, or if I did, nothing major.

Okay, let me know if I am annoying you.

Edit - Preferences - General

Scott,
Post a thread on LC. Explain what you have tried already. Some of those guys know a thing or two about this stuff.

You're not annoying me at all, Shawn. Thanks for trying to help. My setting match the above, by the way.

Basically, I think a telling sign is the link with it being off in both Photoshop AND Bride, they aren't linked, right?

And yeah, I'll post a thread on there. I'm going to grab some beer real quick. I need one.

Okay, so I've been doing some investigating...

Basically, it seems Windows and Firefox are non-color managed apps, so they display colors much differently than Photoshop and Bridge (color-managed). So, I think some of the shots ARE over-cooked a bit and just look fine on the web because it drabs them out a bit but the true colors/processing are off.

So, my next question, how the hell do I make the correctly edited, color managed image look the same from Photoshop to the web?

Originally Posted by Stime187

Okay, so I've been doing some investigating...

Basically, it seems Windows and Firefox are non-color managed apps, so they display colors much differently than Photoshop and Bridge (color-managed). So, I think some of the shots ARE over-cooked a bit and just look fine on the web because it drabs them out a bit but the true colors/processing are off.

So, my next question, how the hell do I make the correctly edited, color managed image look the same from Photoshop to the web?

Generally as long as you save it as sRGB it will look the same on your computer applications as well as on the web.

This is what is confusing, you say you are working in sRGB and saving as sRGB.

Don't give up just yet, it is frustrating, but you will get it resolved.

Originally Posted by thomps6s

Generally as long as you save it as sRGB it will look the same on your computer applications as well as on the web.

This is what is confusing, you say you are working in sRGB and saving as sRGB.

Don't give up just yet, it is frustrating, but you will get it resolved.

Exactly. That's what I thought.

You stay in sRGB and it looks right or I suppose it should...

So, how about all the proof colors mess in Photoshop, what do you have that set as? I have nothing clicked/checked. That right?

As far as I know, proof colors is only for checking to make sure your colors don't run outside the gamut of the printing profile you have setup.

Say you print with WHCC, you can download their soft proofing profile. You add that and when you press CTRL+Y it checks your images colors against the printer's capabilities for colors, contrast, etc..

For example if you have a really bright sun with basically no color data in the middle, it may print green if you don't proof it and color correct that part of the file.

Give me the menu map of what you are referring to and I will check my settings.

Are you talking about View - Proof Colors?

Yeah, View -> "Proof Setup" and View -> Proof Colors.

My Proof setup

Okay, I'll post this in both of my bitching threads...

So, View --> Proof Colors checked with "Monitor RGB" selected matches (at least closely) my web images and ESPECIALLY my prints. Does that mean anything?

Can you see any discrepancies when that is checked? If not, you may have fingered it out.

Mine are they way they have been since I installed CS3.
I never moved it to Working CMYK that is how it has always been set.

Read here - http://www.creativepro.com/article/o...int-prediction
Working CMYK is the default

More interesting info - http://www.gballard.net/psd/saveforwebshift.html

Hopefully this stuff doesn't confuse you.

Originally Posted by thomps6s

Can you see any discrepancies when that is checked? If not, you may have fingered it out.

Yeah, drastic difference. It goes from being over-cooked to normal with it checked and "Monitor RGB" selected from the list.

I also found out that Photoshop and Bridge are tied together. So, if I can fix the color management in one, it will take care of the other...

Great, I discovered this little gem...

Originally Posted by Photoshop Help

To synchronize color settings across Adobe applications

When you set up color management using Adobe Bridge, color settings are automatically synchronized across applications. This synchronization ensures that colors look the same in all Adobe Creative Suite applications.

1. Open Bridge.

2. To open Bridge from another Creative Suite application, choose File > Browse from the application. To open Bridge directly, either choose Adobe Bridge from the Start menu (Windows) or double-click the Adobe Bridge icon (Mac OS).

3. Choose Edit > Creative Suite Color Settings.

4. Select a color setting from the list, and click Apply.
If none of the default settings meet your requirements, select Show Expanded List Of Color Setting Files to view additional settings. To install a custom settings file, such as a file you received from a print service provider, click Show Saved Color Settings Files.

The problem is, I don't have that option on my menu.

You would have to have creative suites to see that menu. There has to be another way to see those settings.

In Bridge,

Window - Workspace - Reset to Default workspace

Not sure if that will fix it, but may be worth a try.

Originally Posted by thomps6s

In Bridge,

Window - Workspace - Reset to Default workspace

Not sure if that will fix it, but may be worth a try.

Yep, did that. It just resets the workspace, doesn't seem to effect settings. Or if it does, it doesn't matter...